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charge-n-go

Oct 1 2005, 11:41 AM

This guide is written to help those who wanna buy new computer system, but have no ideas about what to buy.

The system suggested is categorize by the target users :

1. OFFICE / ONLINE
2. GAMING
3. DESIGNER (Web, 2D, 3D) / VIDEO EDITING
4. SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT / SCIENTIFIC
5. VIDEO ENCODING
6. OVERCLOCKING RIG
7. ALLROUNDER USAGE (user who use comp for all aspects)

Important notes:

- Speaker, Casing, Keyboard and Mouse are excluded. You can choose them at your own preferences.

- High quality PSU is included in most rig.

charge-n-go

Oct 1 2005, 11:48 AM

OFFICE / ONLINE RIG :

Primary aim :

~ Office, online, download, mp3, CD burning, anime/movie and etc.
~ Focus on good stability and low power consumption and noise.
~ Focus more on storage device in higher end package.
~ No focus on gaming aspect and sound quality.
~ Target at novice / office users, overclocking is not considered.

Packages:

From CHEAP ----> EXPENSIVE :

--------- increased in speed and response ------------->
--------- increased in multitasking ability -------------->
--------- increased in storage space ------------------->
--------- increased in optical drive capability ---------->

CLICK TO VIEW THE PACKAGES

charge-n-go

Oct 1 2005, 12:03 PM

GAMING APPLICATION :
Thanx Blah Blah Blah for you help in this section. Appreciate it

Primary aim :

~ Able to play the latest game as smooth as possible.
~ Focus a lot on graphic and sound quality
~ Focus more on single core CPU performance
~ Also focus on RAM overclocking in higher end package.
~ Less focus on storage devices.
~ All packages can run general applications without any problems.

Packages:

from CHEAP -----> EXPENSIVE:

--------- increased in CPU o/c speed ------------------>
--------- increased in RAM o/c speed ------------------>
--------- increased in graphic quality & speed --------->
--------- increased in sound experience ---------------->
--------- increased in storage space -------------------->

CLICK TO VIEW THE PACKAGES

- package and component marked in GREEN means overclockable

- Thanx Blah Blah Blah for new suggestions.

charge-n-go

Oct 2 2005, 04:56 AM

CONTENT CREATION / VIDEO EDITING :

Basically, content creation and video editing have some same features. So I group these two together.

Please take note that, video editing is different from video encoding. Edit means u r doing something randomly to the video to modify its content, and encoding actually means converting from one format to another one.

Content Creation includes web design, 2D graphic design, 3D rendering and of course the engineering model rendering which is in 3D too

Primary aim :

~ High requirement on CPU, needs good single thread and multithread ability.
~ Big and fast RAM is another important criteria.
~ Low end 3D card is more than enough as application requires only 2D display.
~ 3D rendering uses CPU rather than GPU, so high end 3D card is not essential.
~ Big HDD capacity and advanced optical storage are needed to store big files.
~ Must be rock stable during operation.

Packages:

from CHEAP -----> EXPENSIVE:

----- increased in CPU o/c speed ---------->
----- increased in RAM o/c speed ---------->
----- increased in RAM capacity ------------>
----- increased in storage space ----------->
----- increased in storage speed ----------->

CLICK TO VIEW THE PACKAGES

- package and component marked in GREEN means overclockable.

Blah Blah Blah

Oct 3 2005, 02:00 PM

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pcmoddingmy

Oct 3 2005, 07:03 PM

QUOTE(charge-n-go @ Oct 3 2005, 05:12 PM)

Hey, i found X700Pro is generally better than GF6600, maybe we screw the 6600 and replace with X700Pro? It's just 50 bucks difference.

edit : I'm changing some price range due to the suggestion in LYN. It's more reasonable to hv closer price range in lower end specification

* Updated with Gaming Rig listing.

Well, I think its better to go with 6600 because you can now SLI with 6600 and 6200. Moreover, it supports SM3.0 (for HDR) and overclocks pretty well. Forceware 80 looks pretty good and should give the 6600 a good improvement over the x700 in most recent games.

On the other hand, the X700 doesn't support SM3.0 and no support for CrossFire (officially). x700 is actually a "not-so-successful" product from ATI. Either go for 6600 or 6200 for low end graphics.

pcmoddingmy

Oct 7 2005, 04:14 PM

Actually you can enable SM3.0 without using HDR. So basically SM3.0 improves performance a little bit, but don't use HDR on low end graphics card such as 6200.

Sphenix

Oct 10 2005, 01:25 AM

Found this on HardwareZone...........

user posted image

AMD Gaming Rig

Processor - AMD Athlon 64 FX-55
Motherboard - ABIT Fatal1ty AN8
RAM - Corsair TWINX1024-4000PRO (DDR500) - 1 GB kit
HSF - Thermaltake Beetle
PSU - Antec TruePower 2.0 (550W)
Graphic Card - HIS X850XT IceQ II Turbo Dual DVI VIVO 256MB
Sound Card - Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 4 Pro
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200.7

user posted image

Intel Gaming Rig

Processor - Intel Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.73GHz
Motherboard - MSI P4N Diamond
RAM - Kingston HyperX 1GB DDR2 Memory Kit (KHX5400D2K2/1G)
HSF - Cooler Master Hyper 6+
PSU - CoolerMaster Real Power 550W
Graphic Card - Leadtek GeForce 6800 Ultra 512MB
Sound Card - Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 4 Pro
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200.7

Source: Hardwarezone
Benchmark
Overclocking

aaron_lwm

Oct 10 2005, 09:33 PM

@sphenix
haha, saw this one some time ago, crazy sial Pc's

pcmoddingmy

Oct 10 2005, 10:01 PM

Not that crazy sial actually... notice the power supply isnt connected to the system yet... how to boot up?

And having SLI on Intel platform rather than AMD platform is ridiculous.
I also think that a gaming rig should at least have a Thermalright XP based heatsink or a water cooling...

Edit: I also noticed that the mobo isn't actually screwed to the casing!

Sphenix

Oct 11 2005, 04:56 PM

Found this on ASI.....
"Ultimate PC Game Gear Guide!"!

Processor
Pentium 4 Processor Extreme Edition supporting Hyper-Threading Technology LGA775 3.73GHz 1066FSB L2=2MB 90nm - with a super fast core, 2MB of L2 cache, and support for Hyperthreading this thing really rocks!

AMD Athlon 64 X2 (2.8GHz) L1=128KB L2=1MB 90nm Retail - In a class by itself, designed specifically for gaming

Motherboard Chipset

QUOTE

For power gamer, the Intel 945P chipset is still a great choice. While being a bit more friendly to the wallet, motherboards based on this chipset still include great features like Dual-Core 533MHz - 1066MHz FSB CPU support, Hyper-Threading, Dual-channel DDR2 support, PCI-Express x16 interface, Intel HD Audio, improved Matrix Storage Technology, and SATA 3G support. You don't get SLI support with this chipset, but for the gamer who wants to play, but doesn't want to go broke doing it, this isn't the most important feature anyways.

QUOTE

On the High end of the chipset spectrum is the NVIDIA nForce4 SLI chipset, (which can be used on the Intel or AMD platform motherboards), and the Intel 955X chipset. The NVIDIA nForce4 SLI now comes in two flavors, the standard SLI and the SLI X16 which, at introduction, was strictly a Dell only option, but is now making it's way to other motherboard makers. The X16 option offers two X16 lanes for the SLI video cards which gives you full blown SLI support, which is something that hasn't been available. With many SLI capable setups currently available, you are only actually getting X16 speeds if you use a single card, it gets cut in half if you're running SLI. While X8 PCI-E is still pretty sweet, true X16 bandwidth on both cards will be a welcome sight.

Graphic Card
XFX GeForce 7800GTX Overclocked 490MHz 256MB Dual DVI VIVO PCI-Express DDR3 SLI mode.

Sound Card
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Gamer Limited Edition SB0350G Retail (includes full versions of several popular games)

QUOTE

For the gamer who wants to save a few bucks, but still get some of the best possible audio available, it's possible to kill two birds with one stone. For the customer who purchases one of the motherboards with Intel's 955X or 945P motherboards, they may include the new and improved Intel® High Definition Audio (Intel® HD Audio) Version 2. Intel's built-in audio chip supports up to eight channels at 192 kHz/32-bit quality and is able to support all the Dolby technologies, including the latest Dolby Pro Logic* IIx, which makes it possible to enjoy older stereo content in 7.1 channel surround sound. Intel® HD Audio also enables high quality speech recognition and Voice Over IP for those who use their PC's for more than just music and gaming functions.

Memory
1GB Corsair XMS2 1000MHz DDR2 (2x512MB) (TWIN2X1024-8000UL)

QUOTE

For gaming performance to be realized a minimum 1GB total memory running in dual channel mode is required (this means two 512MB matching memory modules). 2GB would be ideal for intensive gaming purposes.

Hard Drives
Western Digital SATA 74GB 10,000RPM 8MB Cache 4.5ms

LCD Monitor
ViewSonic 19" VX924 LCD

QUOTE

The industry leading 3ms response rate can't be beat. The display features a 1280x1024 SXGA anti-glare screen with a 550:1 contrast ratio. High brightness and contrast ratios, wide viewing angles, and proprietary ViewSonic specialties like Dynamic Structure and Amplified Impulse technologies make this a serious gamers monitor.

Speaker
SKU 35826 - Creative Labs Speaker Systems GigaWorks ProGamer G500 5.1 310W Black Retail - impressive package features excellent sound quality; 5.1 channel audio, separate Rear, Center, and Subwoofer volume control, a dedicated control module with headphone jack, and is THX certified.

Networking
Gaming Router D-Link DGL-4300

Chassis
Thermaltake silver Armor and Thermaltake silver Shark

Power Supply
OCZ PowerStream 600W

update*14-12-05
http://www.thetechlounge.com/articles.php?id=240&page=3

charge-n-go

Oct 11 2005, 08:41 PM

Nice info sphenix.

Hmm... it's weird that they use Pentium D EE as ultimate rig, as it is so hot and don't perform well in gaming. HT isn't needed in gaming at all. A single core with high clock like A64FX is the best match.

QUOTE

AMD Athlon 64 X2 (2.8GHz) L1=128KB L2=1MB 90nm Retail - In a class by itself, designed specifically for gaming

^ this statement is wrong, A64x2 is not built for gaming. In fact, AMD processors are not built with gaming as the target, but in the overall aspects. It is just so co-incidence that AMD performs great in gaming compare to Intel.

QUOTE

For power gamer, the Intel 945P chipset is still a great choice. While being a bit more friendly to the wallet,...........

This is kinda stupid IMHO, since it is the ULTIMATE rig, who cares about being friendly to the wallet? Mobo is one of the most important parts in PC, js go full out with the money

charge-n-go

Oct 25 2005, 11:14 AM

OPEN FOR NOVEMBER RIG DISCUSSION
Please Contribute your ideas in the followings:

1. OFFICE / ONLINE
2. GAMING
3. DESIGNER (Web, 2D, 3D) / VIDEO EDITING
4. SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT / SCIENTIFIC
5. VIDEO ENCODING
6. OVERCLOCKING RIG
7. ALLROUNDER USAGE (user who use comp for all aspects)

Ericz

Oct 25 2005, 09:17 PM

meibie teh ATI all-in-wonder can fit into 1 of teh package ?

aaron_lwm

Oct 26 2005, 11:11 PM

@CNG
good database compiled, at least my efforts are not wasted....good going bro

gmail

Oct 28 2005, 12:37 PM

November Guide:
this month i would like 2 recommend a 17" lcd from Philips for budget gamer! i recommend this is because of the 12ms response time!

Model: Philips 170S6FB

Price: RM860 (CYCOM)

Spec:
Picture/Display
LCD panel type : 1280 x 1024 pixels, Anti-glare polarizer, RGB vertical stripe
Panel Size : 17"/ 43 cm
Effective viewing area : 337.9 x 270.3 mm
Pixel pitch : 0.264 x 0.264 mm
Brightness (nits) : 250 nit
Contrast ratio (typical) : 500:1
Display colors : 16.2 M
Viewing angle : - C/R > 5
Viewing angle (horizontal) : 160 degree
Viewing angle (vertical) : 155 degree
Response time (typical) : 12 ms
White Chromaticity, 6500K : x = 0.313 / y = 0.329
White Chromaticity, 9300K : x = 0.283 / y = 0.297
Maximum Resolution : 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz
Recommended Resolution : 1280 x 1024 @ 60 Hz
Factory Preset Modes : 15 modes
User definable modes : 50 modes
Video Dot Rate : 140 MHz
Horizontal Scanning Frequency : 30 - 83 KHz
Vertical Scanning Frequency : 56 - 76 Hz
sRGB : Yes

Connectivity
Signal Input : Analog (VGA)
Video Sync Input Signal : Composite Sync, Separate Sync, Sync on Green

Convenience
Convenience Enhancements : On-screen Display, SmartManage enabled
Monitor Controls : Auto, Brightness Control, Left/Right, Menu (OK), Power On/Off, Up/Down
OSD Languages : English, French, German, Italian, Simplified Chinese, Spanish
Other convenience : Kensington lock compatible, FlexiHolder
Plug & Play Compatibility : DDC/CI, sRGB, Windows 98/ME/2000/XP
Regulatory Approvals : CE Mark, E2000, EMC, Energy Star, FCC-B, UL, CSA, SEMKO, TCO '99, TÜV/GS, TÜV Ergo
Tilt : -5° to 25°
VESA Mount : 100 x 100 mm

Accessories
Included Accessories : AC Power Cord, VGA cable
Optional accessories : Super Ergo Base
User Manual : Yes

Dimensions
Depth (with base) : 200 mm
Height (with base) : 390 mm
Width (with base) : 375 mm
MTBF : 50,000 hrs
Relative Humidity : 20% - 80%
Temperature Range (Operation) : 5° C to 40° C
Temperature Range (Storage) : -20°C to 60° C
Weight : 3.9 kg

Power
Complies with : E2000, Energy Star, NUTEK
Consumption : 30W (Typical)
Off Mode : < 1 W
Power LED indicator : Operation, green, Stand by/sleep, Amber
Power supply : Built-in, 90-264 VAC, 50/60 Hz

Blah Blah Blah

Dec 9 2005, 04:44 PM

My Gaming Rig Guide: V6.9 29/12/2006 (Update some times...

)

Please read this note before the guide:
1. Item price list I download from here (Malaysia), mostly these price list is from Low Yat Plaza at Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, so the price will vary from other PC hardware shop not from Low Yat Plaza.
2. All rig is not included Computer Casing, Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor/LCD and Speakers.
3. This 'My' Gaming Rig Guide not only solve your trouble/problem of choseing Gaming Rig, also a reference to customize your 'Own' Gaming Rig.
4. This gaming rig guide also a suggestion for charge-n-go who start this system guide thread.

5. If item price marked in red means the price is increase from Low Yat Plaza PC hardware shop since last version, blue means the price is drop, and black/none means not change, exemple:
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AMD Sempron64 2800+ (1.6GHz, 256KB L2, S754) - 160 = price increase since last version
Gigabyte K8N51GMF (nForce C51) - 240 = price not change since last version
Kingston DDR400 Value RAM 1GB - 350 = price drop since last version
Integrated GeForce 6100 - 0
80.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 8MB - 165
Lite-On Combo Drive - 115
3.5" Floppy Disk Drive - 30
Enermax 320Watt NoiseTaker Blue Power (Non PFC) - 170
on board sound - 0
on board LAN - 0

Total: 1230

Warning: Above is exemple rig, don't follow.

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Contents:
1. SUPER BUDGET (Below RM1200)
2. ENTRY LEVEL(Below RM1600)
3. MID-LOW RANGE (Below RM2400)
4. MID-HIGH RANGE (Below RM3400)
5. HIGH END (Below RM5000)
6. SUPER HIGH END (Below RM7000)
7.1 THE ULTIMATE - AMD VERSION (Below RM10000)
7.2 THE ULTIMATE - INTEL VERSION (Below RM10000)

1. SUPER BUDGET (Below RM1200):

AMD Sempron64 3000+ (1.6GHz, 256KB L2, AM2) - 190
Asus M2NPV-MX (nVidia Geforce 6150 + nForce 430 MCP) - 295
Kingston DDR2 667 Value RAM 512MB (5-5-5-12) - 195
Integrated GeForce 6100 - 0
80.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 8MB - 155
Lite-On Combo Drive DVD+CDRW - 105
3.5" Floppy Disk Drive - 30
Cooler Master eXtreme Power 430W RS-430-PCAP (PCI-E 6-pin & Non PFC) - 160 (Details)
on board sound - 0
on board LAN - 0

Total: 1130

Edition:
Asus M2NPV-VM (nVidia Geforce 6150 + nForce 430 MCP) - 340 (with HDTV Output)
to
Asus M2NPV-MX (nVidia Geforce 6150 + nForce 430 MCP) - 295 (without HDTV Output)

Enermax 320Watt NoiseTaker Blue Power (Non PFC) - 170
to
Cooler Master eXtreme Power 430W RS-430-PCAP (PCI-E 6-pin & Non PFC) - 160 (Details)

Note:
Integrated GeForce 6100 can play NFS: Most Wanted at 640x480 Mid-Low quality, avarge 50 FPS record by FRAPS.
user posted image

This screen shot is from Integrated GeForce 6100 AMD S754 mainboard, AMD Sempron64 2500+ S754 1.4GHz @ 1.63Ghz and 2x Kingston DDR400 Value RAM 512MB @ DDR466.

2. ENTRY LEVEL(Below RM1600):

AMD Sempron64 3000+ (1.6GHz, 256KB L2, AM2) - 190
Asus M2N-E (nForce 570 Ultra) - 360 <Details>
Kingston DDR2 667 Value RAM 512MB (5-5-5-12) - 195
Winfast 7300GT Extreme 128MB 1.4ns GDDR3 (8PL) - 340
80.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 8MB - 155
Lite-On Combo Drive DVD+CDRW - 105
3.5" Floppy Disk Drive - 30
Cooler Master eXtreme Power 430W RS-430-PCAP (PCI-E 6-pin & Non PFC) - 160 (Details)
on board sound - 0
on board LAN - 0

Total: 1535

Edition:
Enermax 320Watt NoiseTaker Blue Power (Non PFC) - 170
to
Cooler Master eXtreme Power 430W RS-430-PCAP (PCI-E 6-pin & Non PFC) - 160 (Details)

3. MID-LOW RANGE (Below RM2400):

AMD Athlon64 3600+ X2 (2.0GHz, Dual Core, 2x 256KB L2, AM2) - 405 <Review>
Asus M2N-E (nForce 570 Ultra) - 360 <Details>
2x Kingston DDR2 667 Value RAM 512MB (5-5-5-12) - 380
Winfast 7900GS 256MB 1.4ns GDDR3 (20PL) - 735
160.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 8MB - 210
Lite-On Combo Drive DVD+CDRW - 105
3.5" Floppy Disk Drive - 30
Cooler Master eXtreme Power 430W RS-430-PCAP (PCI-E 6-pin & Non PFC) - 160 (Details)
on board sound - 0
on board LAN - 0

Total: 2385

Edition:
Winfast 7600GT 256MB 1.4ns GDDR3 (12PL) - 525
to
Winfast 7900GS 256MB 1.4ns GDDR3 (20PL) - 735

Enermax 320Watt NoiseTaker Blue Power (Non PFC) - 170
to
Cooler Master eXtreme Power 430W RS-430-PCAP (PCI-E 6-pin & Non PFC) - 160 (Details)

4. MID-HIGH RANGE (Below RM3400):

AMD Athlon64 3800+ X2 (2.0GHz, Dual Core, 2x 512KB L2, AM2) - 495
Asus M2N-E (nForce 570 Ultra) - 360 <Details>
Corsair TwinX 1024-5400C4 (2x DDR2 675 512MB, 4-4-4-12) - 490
HIS X1950XT IceQ 3 256MB 1.0ns GDDR3 (16PL) - 1180 <English Review, Chinese Review>
250.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 8MB - 260
LiteOn 16x DVD Drive - 85
Lite-On DVD-RW Drive - 125
3.5" Floppy Disk Drive - 30
Antec True Power 2.0 430W (A-PFC) - 330
on board sound - 0
on board LAN - 0

Total: 3355

Edition:
160.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 8MB - 210
to
250.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 8MB - 260

5. HIGH END (Below RM5000):

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 (2.13GHz, Dual Core, 2x 1MB L2, S775) - 805
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS4 (i965P + ICH8R, 6 phase power) - 695
Corsair TwinX 1024-5400C4 (2x DDR2 675 512MB, 4-4-4-12) - 490
HIS X1950XT IceQ 3 256MB 1.0ns GDDR3 (16PL) - 1180 <English Review, Chinese Review>
Creative S-Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music - 420
250.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 8MB - 260
LiteOn 16x DVD Drive - 85
Lite-On DVD-RW Drive - 125
3.5" Floppy Disk Drive - 30
Antec True Power 2.0 550W (A-PFC) - 440
Thermalright XP-120 + LGA775 RM<Details> and 12cm case fan - 320
on board LAN - 0

Total: 4850

6. SUPER HIGH END (Below RM7000):

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 (2.40GHz, Dual Core, 2x 2MB L2, S775) - 1150
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS4 (i965P + ICH8R, 6 phase power) - 695
Corsair TwinX 1024-5400C4 (2x DDR2 675 512MB, 4-4-4-12) - 490
Windfast 8800GTS 640MB 1.25ns GDDR3 (Stream/Shader Processors 96) - 2000 <Review>
Creative S-Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music - 420
2x 36.0GB Western Digital Raptor SATA 10K rpm 8MB @ RAID 0 - 770
250.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 16MB - 260
LiteOn 16x DVD Drive - 85
Pioneer 5xDR DVD-RW Drive (model name: 111) - 240
3.5" Floppy Disk Drive - 30
Antec True Power 2.0 550W (A-PFC) - 440
Thermalright XP-120 + LGA775 RM<Details> and 12cm case fan - 320
on board LAN - 0

Total: 6900

Note:
Overview of 8800GTX/GTS, X1950XTX and 7900GTX click here.

7.1 THE ULTIMATE - AMD VERSION (Below RM10000):

AMD Athlon64 5200+ X2 (2.6GHz, Dual Core, 2x 1MB L2, AM2) - 1095
DFI LANPARTY UT NF590 SLI-M2R/G (nForce 590 SLI) - 1090 <Details, found at View Net from Low Yat Plaza>
Corsair TwinX 2048-8500C5D (2x DDR2 1066 1GB, 5-5-5-15) - 1800
Windfast 8800GTX 768MB 1.1ns GDDR3 (Stream/Shader Processors 128) - 2500
Creative S-Blaster X-Fi Fatality - 880
2x 36.0GB Western Digital Raptor SATA 10K rpm 8MB @ RAID 0 - 770
320.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 16MB - 355
LiteOn 16x DVD Drive - 85
Pioneer 5xDR DVD-RW Drive (model name: 111) - 240
3.5" Floppy Disk Drive - 30
Antec True Power 2.0 550W (A-PFC) - 440
Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX - 200 <Review>
on board LAN - 0

Total: 9485

Edition:
AMD Athlon64 5000+ X2 (2.6GHz, Dual Core, 2x 512KB L2, AM2) - 1040
to
AMD Athlon64 5200+ X2 (2.6GHz, Dual Core, 2x 1MB L2, AM2) - 1095

Kingston Hyper-X KHX6400D2LLK2/1G (2x DDR2 800 1GB, 4-4-4-12) - 1240
to
Corsair TwinX 2048-8500C5D (2x DDR2 1066 1GB, 5-5-5-15) - 1800

Note:
This version is better gaming compare the INTEL version

, because AMD version use higher class 8800GTX, and INTEL version use lower class 8800GTS, but the over all performance slower compare the INTEL version, even the CPU is overclocked

.

Overview of 8800GTX/GTS, X1950XTX and 7900GTX click here.

7.2 THE ULTIMATE - INTEL VERSION (Below RM10000):

Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 (2.67GHz, Dual Core, 2x 2MB L2, S775) - 2000 <found at View Net from Low Yat Plaza>
Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 (i965P + ICH8R, 12 phase power) - 850 <Review>
Corsair TwinX 2048-8500C5D (2x DDR2 1066 1GB, 5-5-5-15) - 1800
Windfast 8800GTS 640MB 1.25ns GDDR3 (Stream/Shader Processors 96) - 2000 <Review>
Creative S-Blaster X-Fi Fatality - 880
2x 36.0GB Western Digital Raptor SATA 10K rpm 8MB @ RAID 0 - 770
320.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 16MB - 355
LiteOn 16x DVD Drive - 85
Pioneer 5xDR DVD-RW Drive (model name: 111) - 240
3.5" Floppy Disk Drive - 30
Antec True Power 2.0 550W (A-PFC) - 440
Thermalright XP-120 + LGA775 RM<Details> and 12cm case fan - 320
on board LAN - 0

Total: 9770

Note:
This version is better over all performance compare the AMD version

, but the gaming is lower compare the AMD version, even the GPU is overclocked

, because AMD version use higher class 8800GTX, and INTEL version use lower class 8800GTS.

Overview of 8800GTX/GTS, X1950XTX and 7900GTX click here.

basSist

Dec 30 2005, 10:39 PM

QUOTE

MID-LOW RANGE (Below RM2500):

AMD Athlon64 3000+ (512KB L2) - 525
DFI NF4 Infinity (non ultra) - 395
2x Kingston Value RAM 512MB - 290
Gecube X1600XT 256MB GDDR2 (12PL) - 650
80.0GB Seagate Baracudda NCQ 8MB - 215
Lite-On Combo Drive DVD+CDRW - 120
3.5" Floppy Disk Drive - 30
Enermax 320Watt NoiseTaker Blue Power - 170
on board sound - 0
on board LAN - 0

Total: 2395

Gecube X1600XT 256MB GDDR2 (12PL) better than 6600GT?

Sphenix

Dec 31 2005, 01:24 AM

i believe is yes as 6600gt only 8pl whereas x1600xt is 12pl

neozero

Feb 12 2006, 07:51 PM

is 6800XT really good? i heard alot of comment thats is a crap version of 6800 Vanilla.

Confession

Apr 15 2006, 01:47 AM

Will there be any update on this thread ?

Blah Blah Blah

Apr 23 2006, 02:57 PM

QUOTE(Confession @ Apr 15 2006, 02:47 AM)

Will there be any update on this thread ?

Sorry!

I just update now(23/4/2006), please enjoy!

Cause I'm waiting for the 7600 & 7900 series price, but behalf is my laziness...

haz

Jun 9 2006, 04:08 PM

i want to change my processor 1.5 ghz socket 478
if i want to change a better and cheap processor and i dont want to change my 478 motherboard ,what should i buy?(about RM 300)

pcmoddingmy

Jun 10 2006, 02:09 PM

QUOTE(haz @ Jun 9 2006, 04:08 PM)

i want to change my processor 1.5 ghz socket 478
if i want to change a better and cheap processor and i dont want to change my 478 motherboard ,what should i buy?(about RM 300)

For RM300, its quite hard to find a new s478 processor.
You can try looking at 2nd hand stores and you may find a 2.4GHz or up to 3.0GHz proc for that price. My best bet is to go with a 2.4C

haz

Jun 10 2006, 11:28 PM

QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Jun 10 2006, 02:09 PM)

QUOTE(haz @ Jun 9 2006, 04:08 PM)

i want to change my processor 1.5 ghz socket 478
if i want to change a better and cheap processor and i dont want to change my 478 motherboard ,what should i buy?(about RM 300)

For RM300, its quite hard to find a new s478 processor.
You can try looking at 2nd hand stores and you may find a 2.4GHz or up to 3.0GHz proc for that price. My best bet is to go with a 2.4C

how about the celeron D ?

haz

Jun 10 2006, 11:33 PM

and is that neccesary to change the processor? (if i want to change to celeron D)

Blah Blah Blah

Jul 26 2006, 10:39 PM

Update(27/07/2006) again!

Lazy again!

Blah Blah Blah

Jul 30 2006, 12:41 PM

Update(13/08/2006) at post #17!

I 'squess' Intel Core 2 Duo on some rig, and make two version of "THE ULTIMATE", "INTEL" & "AMD" version.

Blah Blah Blah

Aug 20 2006, 11:42 PM

Update(20/08/2006) at post #17, I make two version of 'THE ULTIMATE - AMD VERSION' 1 & 2, cause I still can't decide go with S939 or AM2

, so I make two to let you guys chose...

1. S939 had Opteron, so is very easy to overclock, but very expensive and old technology, and hard to find...

2. AM2 still don't have the Opteron yet, which mean hard to overclock, but using latest technology and very cheap, but I'm watting the 65nm AM2 or the Opteron AM2.

getsu

Aug 21 2006, 02:15 PM

even though the X1600XT outperforms the 6600GT in 3dmark05, the real-game performance for it is just about the same as the 6600GT.

It's only in a game like Half-life 2 that you'll see the X1600XT's dominance over the 6600GT. In games like Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, Call of Duty 2, Doom 3, etc, you'll find that the X1600XT performs at the same level as the 6600GT.

I can understand that the 7300GT DDR3 is a cheap card, but to call it entry-level is insulting. I score about 4551 in 3dmark05, and the real-game performance is about as much as a standard 6800GT.

Blah Blah Blah

Aug 27 2006, 05:03 PM

Update(27/08/2006), this time, I REALLY remove AMD S939 from my guide, hope you guys not sad/mad...

Bacause is really hard to find the AMD Opteron S939 and high performance 'DDR1', but I know View Net from Low Yat Plaza still have some stock of AMD Opteron S939 if you want, so I will keep 'My' last AMD S939 Gaming Rig from here:

AMD Opteron 170 (2.0GHz, Dual Core, 2x 1MB L2, S939) - 1540
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe (nForce4 SLI X16) - 850
Corsair TwinX 1024-3200C2PT (2x DDR400 1GB) - 800
2x Galaxy 7900GT 512MB 1.4ns GDDR3 Overclockded (24PL) @ SLI - 3360
Creative S-Blaster X-Fi Fatality - 950
2x 36.0GB Western Digital Raptor SATA 10K rpm 8MB @ RAID 0 - 770
320.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 16MB - 375
LiteOn 16x DVD Drive - 85
Pioneer 5xDR DVD-RW Drive (model name: 111) - 230
3.5" Floppy Disk Drive - 30
Antec True Power 2.0 550W (A-PFC) - 490
Thermalright XP-120 with 12cm case fan - 300
on board LAN - 0

Total: 9780

Thank you AMD S939 all this years.

getsu

Aug 27 2006, 11:11 PM

one thing for sure is... prices for all these stuff in malaysia is just extreme!

for that system you just listed, you can get it in the US for about $1400 (RM4760).

you could even build a system with a 7950GX2 and conroe E6300, along with 2 gigs of ram for only $1000 (RM3400) in the US.

In conclusion, prices in malaysia are just clean rip-offs.

Blah Blah Blah

Aug 27 2006, 11:21 PM

QUOTE(getsu @ Aug 28 2006, 12:11 AM)

Really?

But to us(malaysian) RM3400 is consider 'very expensive'...

F@bian_101

Aug 28 2006, 07:41 PM

QUOTE(getsu @ Aug 27 2006, 11:11 PM)

Which online store you checked the price for???

getsu

Aug 28 2006, 08:10 PM

blah blah blah: sure, it's expensive, but not as expensive as RM4500 for the same specs in malaysia.

Fabian: check newegg.com, dabs.com, etc. They offer lower prices compared to stores here. I also got a catalog from the US before (from a friend), and the prices listed were all cheaper.

pcmoddingmy

Aug 28 2006, 09:11 PM

Well, one thing is cheaper in Malaysia for sure: Processors.
I'm getting my E6300 for RM650 only!

getsu

Aug 28 2006, 09:36 PM

bah, the E6300 is one cheap processor, anywhere.

pcmoddingmy

Aug 28 2006, 09:48 PM

QUOTE(getsu @ Aug 28 2006, 09:36 PM)

bah, the E6300 is one cheap processor, anywhere.

Really?
I thought it is being sold at above $200 in US?

getsu

Aug 28 2006, 10:13 PM

it sells for a lower price on sites like newegg.com, about $149-179 or so. I heard from those living in the US that it was also around that price

pcmoddingmy

Aug 29 2006, 12:15 AM

Just visited Newegg and they listed the E6300 for $193 (RM710), which is about the same price you can get in Malaysia. CZone sells the E6300 at RM720, but not sure if its bundle or CPU alone.
As for E6600, Newegg listed $369.99 (RM1,361.59). You can get it for just RM1210, but again... not sure if must bundle.
Last but not least, Newegg is crazy over their X6800 as they price it at $1,149.99 (RM4,232.27). You can get the same CPU at Czone for just RM3800 and save RM432.

getsu

Aug 29 2006, 10:01 AM

mmm... looks like newegg has gone crazy. Looks like those other sites are gonna be more popular now.

charge-n-go

Sep 1 2006, 10:31 AM

me can buy @ staff price for $105 only.
the problem is i cant afford a nice board and decent DDR2

pcmoddingmy

Sep 1 2006, 09:46 PM

QUOTE(charge-n-go @ Sep 1 2006, 10:31 AM)

me can buy @ staff price for $105 only.
the problem is i cant afford a nice board and decent DDR2

E6300 for RM388 only?!!

Aiya... should have told earlier... Maybe next time I can get a E6600 from you..

Blah Blah Blah

Sep 30 2006, 09:51 PM

Update(29/11/2006) at post #17!

Once again... Lazy...

kay

Dec 18 2006, 04:20 AM

i wanna buy a set of gaming pc(full set).but my father wants me to buy only from the shops.mean set.but their set is either too bad in ram or graphic.I need in more on gaming & Net.Please help.See whether any shop in Ipoh offers a good set of gaming PC(range:2000-4000).Or whether anyone can give me a list which can buy directly from any shop.PLease.Thanks.

pcmoddingmy

Dec 18 2006, 04:34 AM

QUOTE(kay @ Dec 18 2006, 04:20 AM)

Why don't you go to the retail shops and customize your own gaming PC?
You can always start with the available systems and upgreade RAM or graphics card which suits your budget.
I can suggest you the following:
Intel C2D E6600 2.4GHz (RM1200)
Gigabyte 965P-DS3 (RM550)
2x1GB DDR2-667 or DDR2-533 Value Ram (RM800)
NVIDIA GeForce 7900GS 256MB (RM800)
200GB SATA HDD (RM250)
DVDRW (RM130)
Case (RM100) or more...
PSU (RM200)

Total: ~RM3,900

Blah Blah Blah

Dec 18 2006, 08:46 AM

QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Dec 18 2006, 05:34 AM)

QUOTE(kay @ Dec 18 2006, 04:20 AM)

I thought (full set) mean included keyboard, mouse, monitor/LCD and speakers?

Blah Blah Blah

Dec 18 2006, 09:46 PM

To kay:

I dunno whats the pc hardware price from Ipoh, so I boost litter bit more expensive compare from Kuala Lumpur, the (xxx) mean the price is from KL, and also the item I post can easy to find from any pc hardware store, so here is my suggestion for you.

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 (1.86GHz, Dual Core, 2x 1MB L2, S775) - 700 (660)
ASUS P5B (i965P + ICH8R) - 550 (510), Details
2x Kingston DDR2 667 Value RAM 1GB (5-5-5-12) - 840 (790)
Winfast 7600GT 256MB 1.4ns GDDR3 (12PL) - 630 (585), Details
160.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 8MB - 230 (210)
Lite-On DVD-RW Drive - 140 (135)
3.5" Floppy Disk Drive - 30
Cooler Master eXtreme 550W (Non PFC) - 270 (250), Details
on board sound - 0
on board LAN - 0
Samsung Dynaflat 793MG - 400 (390)
Keyboard & Optical Mouse - 100
Altec Lansing 121i - 110 (95)

Total: RM 4000

kay

Dec 19 2006, 02:59 PM

Thanks a lot for the info.Aren't the pc set is standard in the shops?How to customize?And the main problem is my dad.Oh ya,i try to open a new poll but i cant.It always display 'error'.I cant post my poll.So how to post it?

Blah Blah Blah

Dec 19 2006, 10:59 PM

Aiya! Forgot to add casing!

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 (1.86GHz, Dual Core, 2x 1MB L2, S775) - 700 (660)
ASUS P5B (i965P + ICH8R) - 550 (510), Details
2x Kingston DDR2 667 Value RAM 512 (5-5-5-12) - 450 (410)
Winfast 7600GT 256MB 1.4ns GDDR3 (12PL) - 630 (585)
250.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 8MB - 300 (275)
Lite-On DVD-RW Drive - 140 (135)
3.5" Floppy Disk Drive - 30
Cooler Master eXtreme 550W (Non PFC) - 270 (250), Details
on board sound - 0
on board LAN - 0
Samsung Dynaflat 793MG - 400 (390)
Keyboard & Optical Mouse - 100
Altec Lansing 121i - 110 (95)
Cooler Master Centurion 530/532 - 260 (240), Details

Total: 3940

Edition:
2x Kingston DDR2 667 Value RAM 1GB (5-5-5-12) - 840 (790)
to
2x Kingston DDR2 667 Value RAM 512 (5-5-5-12) - 450 (410)

160.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 8MB - 230 (210)
to
250.0GB Seagate Baracudda SATA2 NCQ 8MB - 300 (275)

Add:
Cooler Master Centurion 530/532 - 260 (240), Details

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